Dr. Frank E. Stranges

One of the great tenants of the huge Extra Terrestrial/UFO lore that has blanketed conspiracy theories for over 80 years, and one which has enthralled certain fringe ‘believers’: the story of Valiant Thor.

The story stems from a book by Dr. Frank E. Stranges, Stranger at the Pentagon, first published in 1967. Dr. Stranges (not the Marvel one) was a Christian preacher and founder of International Evangelism Crusades, as well as being a UFO hunter and freelance private investigator. He is perhaps more famous for being an extensive author on the subject of alien intervention and even used his evangelical organisation to publish his UFO literature. He’s a unique figure in the conspiracy world as a devout Christian preacher who was able to reconcile his biblical preachings with his fervent belief and self-proclaimed first hand interaction with E.T. lifeforms.

You can read some excerpts from the book at bibliotecapleyades.

Valiant Thor

In the book Dr. Stranges claims that sometime in 1958 he was given photographs of ‘Val’ Valiant Thor and his second in command Jill and that he had been displaying these photographs as proof of their existence at lecture tours he was giving in his National Evangelistic Centers. It was then at one of these lectures, for the release of his book SAUCERAMA in 1959, he was approached by a woman named Nancy Warren, a Pentagon insider, who offered him the chance to meet Val and speak with him.

The story Val presented him with was that on March 16th 1957 in Alexandria, Virginia Val’s ship the Victor One landed and he and his crew of three, Jill, Donn and Tanyia, were greeted by two police officers, and after some quick thought transference, had them call their superior officer, who called the Pentagon and a meeting was arranged with Neil H. McElroy, the Secretary of Defence. Once McElroy confirmed the veracity of Val’s claims he was ushered through an underground tunnel to the White House where he met with President Dwight D. Eisenhower and Vice President Richard Nixon.

Now already this story is seeming a little hard to follow, and like cornflakes made of sandpaper, even harder to swallow. But hold on to your tinfoil hat as it’s about to get really weird. According to Dr. Stranges he, and others, were sought out by Val as being devout followers of the word of Jesus Christ.

Jesus H. Christ

A close up of Venutian Jill

The man we confusingly know as both the Son of God, and God himself is not just the saviour of mankind and the planet Earth, but of Venutians and Venus and all life in the Universe at large. That the Bible exists in all life supporting planets, be it in book form or as a thought pattern. This is the word of Valiant Thor. The word he came to preach to mankind, but when asked not to by Eisenhower and Nixon he was content to forgo his mission and acquiesce to their heathen demands.

‘Val’ Valiant Thor pictured here from 1957

After the book was published in 1967 Dr. Stranges continued to report of his visits by Val (who apparently never went by Thor, so as not to be confused with Chris Hemsworth obviously) and that Val saved his life on at least three occasions, thus allowing him to continue preaching the galactic word of Jesus.

It’s here that we intersect with this story as, in our D.U.M.Bs in Dulce: The Ballad of Phil Schneider episode we told you how Phil claims his father, Oscar Schneider, once met and worked with Valiant Thor and Phil displayed a photograph on his lecture tours supposedly showing Oscar Schneider sitting behind Val on board the USS Eldridge. The ship you may remember from our Philadelphia Experiment episode as purportedly being involved in a bout of time travel after invisibility tests went awry.

Valiant Thor, circled, with Oscar directly behind

oscar schneider

The picture Phil always displayed, showing a grey haired man sitting in front of his father bears no resemblance to the ones leaked in 1958 of a Cary Grant looking Val. Also the time lines don’t add up as Phil’s picture, which does seem to show Oscar Schneider, is dated from 1943, but according to Stranger at the Pentagon, Val was only known to the US government in 1957.

  • What do you think of all these wild and wonderful claims?
  • Could there really be an intergalactic Jesus?
  • And a Valiant Thor of Venus?
  • And a time travelling battleship that they travel on?
  • Or could it be three men who made careers out of the unbelievable, inexplicable and unprovable?

Let us know what you think.

The USS Eldridge (lightning added later)


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  1. To be fair you guya high lighted the wrong guy in the photo of his dad.

    To the right is blatantly his dad…

    I still dont buy it.

    But cmon lol

  2. According to what I understood Dr Strange said he did not know who the grey haired man was in the photo and he did say that Val Valiant Thor was the person giving the speech and the grey haired man was in the audience with a note pad

  3. I do not know what to think. Part of me wants to believe and another side of me say BS. Makes for a good story, so I will try and find Dr Stranges book some where and read it myself. I do think the government knows more about space than they are letting on.

  4. the picture of val a suit and the picture of “val” with blond hair do not match
    the jaw line , nose and shape of the head is different
    just FYI

  5. The picture with Oscar is not of Val, but Donn Thor, his brother. And they were on the planet long before 1957, though unknown by the government until then.

  6. The government knows much more that is believable. Remember the interview with George H Bush and his answer to the UFO questions. He said he would talk about it but no one would believe him. He was the head of the CIA and has access to extreme top secret information.

  7. Right away the name Valiant Thor is a dead giveaway. Introducing Jesus and the Bible stretches the tale into pure fantasy. Any contact … unless by infiltration which would guarantee anonymity … would not include language. I believe there are genuine contactées like myself, who have chosen to remain silent to salvage their lives from what would certainly be ridicule. A great shame. Stories like this nonsense have rendered me silent for 50 years. I wanted a normal life.

  8. What if the Val Thor is an Arian??? What if it was possible that they are the main ones besides other negative E.T.s that have created Christianity and most contradicting Religions and most so called BIBLES that a lot of religious minded people believe that the BIBLE has some type of magical powers???

    Religion and the so called BIBLES so much contradictory… I can’t wait for the day that the truth about most Religions is not what those that are religiously minded people think it is??? Religion is no different then the darkside of Government… They both go hand and hand and just like the real darkside Satanic part of Government… Just like King James who had made himself holy and royal and who had slept with many mistresses and very young girls and instead of being ridiculed he was forgiven by the people back in the day… While, he had the young girls enslaved and others had been tortured and the mistresses he slept with were hung by death… How about the Vatican city???
    Holy crap???!!!! The Vatican were the ones that invented the torture chambers and whips and chains and a lot of morbid dark crap… Don’t believe me because I don’t care what you think… People you really need to do your own researches, seriously…

    It’s also amazing how negative beings from other worlds or dimensions were able to create lies, deceptions and to confuse all of us through MK-ULTRA… Yet, their still MK-ULTRA everyone to believe all the propaganda crap they have created everywhere on this Earth reality…

    How about that for some conspiracy theory???

  9. how about in every picture you have “Val” doesnt look alike. None of them look like another or any other. Kinda hard to believe something when theres no two pics that make it look like the same man is the individual that is claimed to be “Val”.

  10. Phil said Val had 6 fingers… in the picture with Val having dark hair, I count 5 fingers.. So things aren’t quite consistent here

  11. You people need to realize we need your planet
    We are coming to take it you can stay but we have to decrease the population…..please go get your flu shot 😆 Hal Halient 5

  12. A preacher claiming aliens told him that Jesus and the bible apply throughout the universe. Hmm. No conflict of interest there.

  13. Fantasy! None of it can be true. Where’s his “ship” why wasn’t it examined. They let him in the White House just like that? Did he have a medical exam to prove he was an alien? I can’t believe how naive people are.
    Another “false prophet” with fake everything!

  14. OK, this whole thing was a typo mistake: Val was not a Venusian, but rather from Venezuela. The guy in the original photo is Micky Dora, who conned his way into the meeting. For sure.

  15. Everyone is wrong! Alexander Ludwig (Bjorn Lothbrok, Vikings) traveled back in time lol he’s the one with the blonde hair (not gray) sitting in front of Oscar.

  16. “Jesus is not just the saviour of mankind and the planet Earth, but of Venutians and Venus and all life in the Universe at large.” – actually this is not true. Jesus is a planetary ‘God’, local to the Earth. Thor, the Venusian, was just humoring the preacher Dr Stranges about the Christ, so that he would cooperate.

  17. I believe Valiant Thor existed and was sent by Jesus Christ and The Galactic Federation. Before The Planet Earth can explore Space with Warp Speed Travel their must first be Global Peace on Earth without Nuclear Weapons. The world should looking at developing Warp Speed.

  18. Obviously this being is possessed or an nephillum. Why would an alien travel billions miles to tell a Christian that Jesus is not the Savior for mankind is not God? Val claims he is the Savior. Is 666 next? Why didn’t Val protest any other religion? But the Holy Bible and Jesus Christ? This person is Satan in desquise for sure. This was probably prep work for when the rapture finally does happen.

  19. I noticed the hand too. The truth is sometimes so obvious that we don’t want to believe. It’s stories like this that keep everyone in the dark. I believe this to be true.

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